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Todd Bentley - The Final Chapter?

God lifts the skirts of the prophets for hire.

"Life After Lakeland"
by J. Lee Grady, Editor of Charisma Magazine (www.CharismaNews.org)

Fresh Fire Ministries Board - PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT
"Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship 
on an emotional level with a female member of his staff."

 

"Is THIS a Move of God?!"

Todd Bentley, Lakeland - More warnings.

 

WHAT DO I DO?! What is it and how do I guard against it?!

PART ONE

PART TWO

RED WARNING - Part 1 - What and Why?
This will explain the MECHANICS of what is happening and why it's dangerous. The graphics are from the "Fill My Cup" video and the "Rain Right NOW, Lord!" book that explains all of this.  (Printable transcript PDF file.)

RED WARNING - Part 2 - What and Why?
This will explain the MECHANICS of what is happening and why it's dangerous. The graphics are from the "Fill My Cup" video and the "Rain Right NOW, Lord!" book that explains all of this.  (Printable transcript PDF file.)

More about the Red Dragons

Are YOU doing the Dragon Dance?

 

COMPARE TODD'S "REVIVAL" TO WHAT HAPPENED AT ASBURY COLLEGE IN 1970!!!
SEE THE DIFFERENCE? IT'S ABOUT HOLINESS AND BROKENESS AND GENTLENESS!

Doug's Intro
Compare Asbury to Lakeland and see.

The Revival Hymn Video
Composite of Paisley, Reidheid, Ravenhill, Cambell, Tozer, etc.

PART ONE - Asbury Revival, 1970

PART TWO - Asbury Revival, 1970

PART THREE - Asbury Revival, 1970

PART FOUR - Asbury Revival, 1970

What is REAL Revival?

Dream for Revival in Liberty

And then we have TODD and Company KICKING old ladies in the FACE so that God will show up! 
What "god" shows up when you kick a woman in the face?!  (Put your armor on before watching this!!)

(REMOVED)

Also visit the channel of YouTube user "FinalTrumpet" here - www.YouTube.com/finaltrumpet

Also, we STRONGLY suggest that you read or listen to the book "The Red Dragon" on our site HERE.  STRONGLY SUGGEST!

Before you write and yell at me, maybe you should double check that somebody hasn't already done it for you. Repetition is not good stewardship of anyone's time. Plus, I've tried to respond to the concerns voiced and maybe that will help you understand the point here.  Thank you.  I love you no matter what.
Read some of the responses to the Todd Bentley videos

We're asking for everyone to tell their story.  ANYONE that has been hurt by Todd Bentley, Fresh Fire or associated ministries or who have been told by God to stay away from them. Any prophet or apostle that was sent with a word of correction and tossed out on their ear (or arrested). We're asking for them all to come forth. We will give you a forum to speak and get these messages to the Body.  If you have audio or video testimonies, or copies of specific rebukes or corrections that were not received, let us know.  fotm@fellowshipofthemartyrs.com

This IS NOT about anything other than LOVE for the Body and a desire to see restoration and redemption. We WILL NOT publicize slander or bitterness or anything that isn't pure.  But we DO want to hear it all.  If you still haven't healed from the damage done to you, come to LIBERTY.  There is healing in LIBERTY.  There is revival and renewal in LIBERTY.  Contact us and see if this is true.

fotm@fellowshipofthemartyrs.com
Liberty, Missouri

More Info from Other Sources:
These links are provided for your discernment. We are NOT endorsing everything said. Some of these are people telling their stories or debating. Some are right, some are wrong, some are mean, some are mangled in their own special ways. We're just trying to provide as much information as possible and let YOU take it to the Lord.
Kansas City's Lost Revival - by Andrew Strom
Kansas City's MANY Lost Revivals - by Doug Perry (with audio)
The Spirit of Error blog - Holly Pivec (re: Wagner, Joyner, Bickle, et al)

READ some of the emails and messages sent to us!

Ron Schwartz - The Spirit of Error and the Spirit of Truth - GREAT ARTICLE! NEW!
Todd Bentley says this isn't about getting to JESUS - we have to get people to believe in the ANGEL - NEW!
Testimony of congregations being DESTROYED by this! - NEW
Prepared for the Slaughter - the Disarming of the Church - NEW
Patricia King - Extreme Prophetic - Ekstasis - Club Mysterio - Rave for Jesus - NEW
First Hand Testimony from a Todd Bentley Conference in 2005
An Angel called "Emma" behind all this
"Most Contagious" anointing ever according to Todd
Todd lets Paul Cain lie to MILLIONS without correction
Exporting Extremism from Canada - blog
Holly's Spirit of Error Blog about this whole crew
"Heresy Hunter" blog
Long thread and discussion on EndTimesProphetic
Oni-Demons and Emma-O - New Age spiritism
Another blog with a personal testimony of FREEDOM because of Lakeland.
Manipulative Profiteers - Who says Lakeland is NOT about money?! - NEW
What voice tells TODD to KICK little old ladies in the FACE!?!?! - NEW
Former Toronto Airport Vineyard Pastor acknowledges it was Satan - NEW

LOTS more out there!!  Do more research on your own. Test the SPIRITS!

Deut 13:1-5 (KJV) - 1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

1 John 4:1 (KJV) - 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Tim 3:1-9 (ASV) - 1 But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; 5 holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. From these also turn away. 6 For of these are they that creep into houses, and take captive silly women laden with sins, led away by divers lusts, 7 ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 And even as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also withstand the truth. Men corrupted in mind, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further. For their folly shall be evident unto all men, as theirs also came to be.

Also, we STRONGLY suggest that you read or listen to the book "The Red Dragon" on our site HERE.  STRONGLY SUGGEST!


Text from our most recent e-newsletter. 

Below is a link to a page on our site where you can watch a couple of videos and see lots of links to other sites where you can hear a lot more about what's going on. I don't expect that this is intersecting with the Baptists, Presbyterians, Lutherans or other non-Charismatic denominations at the moment, but you might want to research it because it's VERY contagious and it's moving fast!

The short of it is that about a month ago a conference that Todd Bentley from Fresh Fire Ministries was holding in Lakeland, Florida got bigger and bigger and people are coming from all over the world. They've moved to bigger and bigger venues repeatedly and are having services twice a day for the last three or four weeks. It has been picked up and promoted by GodTV, TBN, Charisma Magazine (who has now begun to throw on the brakes a little however), as well as the International House of Prayer, Extreme Prophetic and many other ministries that are hyping this "great move of God" that supposedly fulfills the prophecies about a great East Coast revival.

The thing is, there is a lot to be suspicious about - from the lack of real Bible preaching, to the lack of talk about hell and repentance and real salvation that requires holiness and brokenness - to the history, style, life and persona of Todd Bentley himself. Fresh Fire Ministries doesn't seen to have any real charitable purpose or mission other than to be a platform for Todd.  There are lots of testimonies about really eggregious money-making strategies enmeshed in this thing.

At the heart of it, this is the grown-up, mature older brother of the Prosperity Gospel. The old was all about the natural wealth, about getting a Mercedes or a jet plane or God blessing you with a new house if you sow a seed into the ministry of someone that already HAS a Mercedes and a jet plane. But this thing that is being preached is SPIRITUAL Prosperity Gospel - if you sow in, you'll get POWER and you'll go to the third heaven any time you want and people will jump out of their wheelchairs when you touch them and you'll get to talk to angels all the time. And ultimately it's just another version of how YOU get to tell GOD what YOU want and He'll do it for you.

I KNOW that I know that this think in Lakeland is truly a move of God - it's just that it is one big, snarly Red Dragon spirit of religion and antichrist and it's a delusion FROM GOD that is intent on your destruction. If you make it about MAN, then God will turn you over to that man - and he will rule you harshly, bring curses on you and take all your money. And that's what's happening when we go down the aisle and say, "Lord, give me whatever THAT guy has got!"  There's not telling what you'll get. You'll be clucking like a chicken before you know it.

I'm warning everybody that has ears to hear - this thing is DANGEROUS!! I'm already getting emails and phone calls from people all over that are seeing this sweep into their congregation - and anybody that disagrees is ejected with prejudice. You KNOW it's a SPIRIT when to even question it, you get your hand bitten off by people that insist they are acting like Jesus!

Do NOT ever, ever, ever (never, ever) let someone (including ME!) lay hands on you without first putting on the FULL ARMOR of God and making sure that YOU have made it clear to the Lord God Almighty that you want NOTHING except His Spirit and only what HE wants for you! If you ask for bread, you will NOT get a stone.

Why are some people finding Jesus and getting healed in Lakeland (or a Benny Hinn conference or elsewhere that looks suspect)? Because if you go ANYWHERE seeking JESUS, you will be found by Him. But if you go seeking Benny or Todd (or whatever is on/in/around them), you'll be found by that, too!

Real revival is about repentance and brokenness and humility and people on their face weeping for their worldliness. It's NOT about laughing or falling down or feathers or gold dust or talking to angels. It's NOT about performance or impressing people or emotional appeals. It's about FEAR OF THE LORD and His JUSTICE, not one-sided promises of blessing because God just wants to love on you.

Does He love you? Yeah, so much that He will whack the stuffing out of you if you make it about YOU! He will turn you over to a strong delusion and you'll take MILLIONS down with you - and you won't even know you're doing it until you stand before Him and say, "But Lord, we healed and delivered and prophesied in your name. We had lots of followers and sold lots of books." And He'll surprise you by lifting the scales off your eyes and showing you that He never knew you - and that you never really did it for Him anyway.

Here in Kansas City, we are at ground zero of some of the nastiest delusions to afflict the Church. If you trace back the charismatic craziness that has afflicted the Bride for the last twenty years, all roads lead to Kansas City. The Kansas City Prophets and what has morphed into IHOP is ultimately behind a WHOLE LOT of what's driving "the prophetic". And it started right, but when God gives you a big job to do (like restore the Bride and bring real revival) and you make it about YOU, He's gonna turn you over to one NASTY spirit of delusion - and anybody that looks to you will follow you right down that wrong path. And their blood will be on YOUR head (and their own for making you an idol).

I pray that those who have ears will hear and be warned. I fear that many will not. This is the nasty, grown-up, sneaky big brother of the delusions that have come before. It's going to sort the wheat from the tares and drive people with discernment out of their comfy congregations full of dead bodies.  Only the Ezekiel 9 remnant will be safe. Without the mark of repentance and weeping and mourning on your forehead, you're just going to be another dead body in a defiled temple. Please hear me. I pray you hear me.

See the link below for more info. And if you're not a charismatic, don't get all full of yourself -- there are all kinds of other nasty Red Dragons (Seeker Sensitive, Emerging Church, Church Growth, Willow Creek, Contemplative Prayer, Alpha, Purpose  Driven, One-God, KJV1611-only, etc.). There are all kinds of the things the Lord will put on you to make you think you're rich and have need of nothing, while you're really blind, wretched, naked and poor - and about to be spewed out of His mouth. Don't get comfy. The only safe place is repentance and brokenness and a desperate desire for the Bride to rise up white and pure and ONE.

Doug Perry, FellowshipOfTheMartyrs.com
5/20/08

 

 

 

 

This site is meant to be just a plain, direct reporting of how miserably, horribly, devastatingly badly we - the Christians in the West - have mismanaged the massive gifts which God has entrusted to us.   Maybe we can change directions if we try something different. Maybe if we started listening to God really well and obeying radically, no matter what the cost. Yeah, that might work.

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